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    I think my plan is to change my oil first at 150 miles, then again at 300.

    I have a gallon of 10w40 Yamalube arriving today, and I'll use that for these first couple of oil changes. Maybe switch to synthetic at 600 miles.
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    I see a lot of people are not switching to synthetic oil till later on, why is that. Should a person break the motor in on dyno oil first? Thanks for all the advise guys, this forum is a great help.
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    Traditionally, engines need to be "broken in". Rings have to wear to mate properly with cylinders, etc. Aircraft engines, also air cooled for the most part, use mineral oil for this phase - up to around 25 hours or until oil consumption stabilizes.

    Too light a load or too effective lubrication can delay this process or prevent it from ever happening.

    That said, modern water-cooled engines are engineered to such tight tolerances they ship with synthetic oil and can recommend first oil changes at 10,000 miles or so. As primitive as the TW200 motor is, I plan on dino for the first little bit - I think 600 miles should do it.

    But that's hardly the only way to do it, and I'm sure alternative methods complete with anecdotes abound!
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    I am a firm believer in full synthetic but only because that is what works for me. Purely a personal choice and I also believe all this hype about break in is just that-Hype.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GaryL View Post
    I am a firm believer in full synthetic but only because that is what works for me. Purely a personal choice and I also believe all this hype about break in is just that-Hype.

    GaryL
    We can debate whether it applies to the TW200 motor or not, but its hardly just hype.

    From one manufacturer's "Tips On Engine Care":

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    I have used dino oil in mine and upon occasion I have used synthetic. I have used oils others say are taboo and have had very little engine wear. I have always broke mine in by manufacturers process. I really think the manufacturer suggests break in for less failure and warranty claims. Slow easy break in will probably catch and flush possible debris left in by manufacturing. I was reading about a v10 dodge viper brought to a track brand new and blew the engine. Professional race track mechanics found debris in the cam channel. Manufactures did not honor the warranty.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fast Eddie B View Post
    We can debate whether it applies to the TW200 motor or not, but its hardly just hype.
    I'm in the "not hype" camp, too. I went to 1500 miles on Yamalube 10w40 dino before switching to Mobil 1 4T 10w40 full synthetic. At 15,000 miles my bike uses about 1/4 qt between 1500 mile oil changes. The BMW, on the other hand, had full synthetic from day one. Two completely different engine technologies; the TW is much closer to aircraft engine technology which is essentially 1930's.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RockyTFS View Post
    Yes, it certainly does...use this format instead: site:http://tw200forum.com/ fork tuning etc.
    Don't forget the space!

    And change your oil NOW and again in 200 miles!!! (at least!)
    Thanks for the correct format rocky.
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    These manuals make me laugh. I have 2 right in front of me, TW200 B & BC and the TW200 W & WC. Both show the capacity with filter change as 1.2 US Quarts. Both also show the Total oil capacity as 1.4 US Quarts which probably reflects the fact we can't get all the original oil out unless we split the engine cases. Both only give an oil spec as Yamalube type 4 SE but these are manuals from a 1989 and 1991 TW. The engines to the best of my knowledge are all the exact same right from 1987 up to 2017 with only some minor differences such as the Stator/charging/electrical systems and a different carb starting in 2001

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    And as one can see for most climates this time of year there is significant overlap of both 10w30 and 20w40 motor oils. That said I shall change over to 200w40 before Summer gets serious here. I usually try to avoid +90 degree riding.
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