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    Senior Member Mattwings's Avatar
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    I have a 30" inseam, so I totally understand the seat height issue. My DR350 is not bad height wise (35"), weighs about 260. I could not keep up with any of the modern enduro bikes from KTM, Yamaha, Honda, but it is a lot closer on the trails than the TW!
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    Id get the lightest 450 you can find and wind down the preload in the back and work from there. If you are worried about your "old" lower body trust me, fighting a 250 in tight going will be way harder on you than something where you don't have to constantly worry about what gear your in or if you have enough momentum. Power can overcome a lot of reasons to get your feet down in the first place.

    This is totally from my perspective of course, I don't have short legs but I find a WR450 a lot more friendly in the bush than a WR250. I'm probably faster on a 250 but its more work. I think the fastest Ive ever ridden in the bush is on a YZ125 because you can only ride them one way and that's like you stole it! - see where I'm conning from here?
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    How could I forget the DR 350 lol. The XT 350 is also an option. The 94+ DR350's are known for occasional exploding motors (pretty rare, but something I'd hate to have to live with the thought of). Other than that, it's a pretty nice bike and gets somewhat close to your requirements (284 pound wet weight, 34" seat height). The DR is the better-performing of the two, but neither is going to perform anywhere near the level of a modern 450-class enduro weapon (it doesn't sound like that's what you're after, though).
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    I had an XT350 and loved it, but it wasn't close to the 98 DR I have now. The suspension was horrible, tires choices limited by the rear swing arm and rhe very good YDIS is a nightmare now as the bikes age if you habe a carb boot or sync issue. It was a great bike and gave me lots of enjoyable and trouble free miles!
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    Thank you guys! All excellent starting points for me. Two strokes are OUT.. I am willing to compromise on suspension travel. I want that super low weight!! Yes, I could probably lose the belly (20-25 pounds) and do some more stretching exercises so I can get a leg over a 34-35 inch saddle, but that would be some hard work!! I don't know if I can give up steak and cheese grinders...

    I have already tried to get a leg over someones KTM EXC (can't recall the exact model) with a 37 inch saddle and it is exceptionally -stoopid- . There's NO WAY for me to safely ride that giraffe. LOL!! If I got rolling I would be on the ground as soon as I stopped.

    That's why I wonder about which ones can be lowered (suspension, saddles, links, etc). Some can't, some can only be lowered an inch or two. It's all compromise. And I don't want a new one either. $8K-$10K for a new bike is too much. I do buy quality, I don't want to wrench all the time, even though I am capable. I like the TW200 for it's reliability. Engines that require a rebuild every XXX hours are a no go. I don't want a race engine. I just looking for longer legs on road, but no hard compromises in the trail because of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ToolmanJohn View Post
    Engines that require a rebuild every XXX hours are a no go. I don't want a race engine. I just looking for longer legs on road, but no hard compromises in the trail because of it.
    Technically your statement excludes motors that will last 1,000 hours, but I agree with what I presume to be your intended point, lol. I really don't like the constant rebuild thing, either. It's just not worth it for the marginal performance gains. Better to pay half as much and have a motor that easily goes twice as long without a rebuild - technically then you're only spending 1/4 as much money
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    Can you still get decent TTr250s over there second hand? I know you can get lowering kits for them and the engines go for ever.
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    There are a few to be found, here are a few west coast listings. ( I know, Arizona isn’t on the coast but they do have the most registered number of boats for any state)

    Description Price Year Location State Listed Source
    TTR 250 $1,700 2003 Gilbert AZ 05/16/17 8:45 pm (1 day ago) Craigslist
    1999 Yamaha TTR 250 $1,800 1999 Modesto CA 05/18/17 2:11 am (18 hours ago) Craigslist
    2005 Yamaha TTR-250 $2,500 2005 Sacramento CA 05/14/17 4:09 pm (4 days ago) Craigslist
    2005 Yamaha TT-R 250 L $3,000 2005 Yucaipa CA 05/12/17 12:00 am (6 days ago) Cycle Trader
    2006 Yamaha TTR 250 $3,500 2006 Santa Monica CA 05/17/17 4:19 pm (1 day ago) Craigslist
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    I just went in looked at those too. Does this motor fit in a TW?
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    Make it fit.

    Very similar to the XT250 engine with a 4V head.

    http://ttr250.activeboard.com/ - great forum...
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