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    For the 14 / 15 front sprocket discussion, FWIIW remember 1 tooth in front is equal to 3 teeth in back. But changing a TW front is a PITA!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BuddyMack View Post
    FWIW remember 1 tooth in front is equal to 3 teeth in back.
    Yes; when you are close to stock, 1 front is close to 3 (closest) rear. Bur when you go large on the rear 1 front can = 4 or 5 rear.

    Starting with 14-65.

    Going to a 15 tooth front = 14-61 (closest); four teeth different.
    Going to a 13 tooth front = 14-70 (closest); five teeth different.
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    Update April 2017: Tested 15-42 which is equal to 14-39. My motor is totally stock - unlike some who have gone to this gearing set-up. I do not recommend these gear set-ups with a stock motor, as I felt there was too much lag (bogging taking off from a stop) for everyday use; and would not hold 60 even dropping to 4th on some of my freeway test sections. I switched to 15-45 and had no problem - and was holding 60+ on the freeway sections.

    So: 15-45 / 14-42 is the highest gearing I can recommend for a stock motor - unless I get a 44 or 43 tooth to test with my 15 front (equal to 14-41 / 14-40 "within 15rpm").
    Hhmmm; I think Kris may have a 44 lying around.
    Last edited by old w/2 many guns & bikes; 06-15-2017 at 05:37 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by old w/2 many guns & bikes View Post
    Update April 2017: Tested 15-42 which is equal to 14-39. My motor is totally stock - unlike some who have gone to this gearing set-up. I do not recommend these gear set-ups with a stock motor, as I felt there was too much lag (bogging taking off from a stop) for everyday use. I switched to 15-45 and had no problem - and was holding 60+ on sections I had problems before.

    So: 15-45 / 14-42 is the highest gearing I can recommend for a stock motor - unless I get a 44 or 43 tooth to test with my 15 front (equal to 14-41 / 14-40 "within 15rpm").
    Hhmmm; I think Kris may have a 44 lying around.


    I do have my 44T laying around and you can borrow it anytime. However, I don't have a dedicated chain to go along with it or maybe I do, I'm not sure. What length of chain would you need for your testing?

    Let me know and we can meet at the secret sprocket testing hand-off spot.

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    I was pretty sure you had run one before. The chain I have on now with my 45 should fit - and if not - I can modify other lengths I have. Any day this week is good. But no worry if not. I mainly want to do it for Forum info. If it is fine; then it would be nice to try a 43. If the 15-44 bogs too much from a stop; then my testing and answer to highest gearing is done. So just let me know if there is a good day, whenever, and A.M. or P.M. as on your way TO work would be fine too.
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    Update June 2017. Admiral loaned me his 44 tooth and I tested it today 15-44 which is equal to a 14-41. It did not have the bogging problems taking off from a stop like the 15-42 did; and was able to hold 65 with a shift to 4th if necessary (where the 42 tooth wouldn't hold 60 in 5th or 4th).

    So, knowing 15-44 or 14-41 is good - and 15-42 or 14-39 fails with my stock motor:

    Anybody have a loose 43 tooth sitting around that I could borrow to complete this test. I would pay shipping both ways.
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    my streeter still runs a 16 front stock rear and the stock chain fits with no mods so it's easy to swap to 15 or 14 front
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