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    New Battery Tender lithium is dead.

    Headed for the green dot roads this morning because that was the plan so damn the fact that it rained so much last night. We weren't even into the woods yet when the gumbo mud became incredibly sticky, slippery and a general pain in the arse. Did about half mile in first gear, sometimes revving it up through the mess and other times putting along slowly. Then my bike just died. Going real slow and then it kind of bogged down and died.

    Now things start to get weird. Bike doesn't want to start right back up. Acts flooded? Then it starts but doesn't want to idle. Idles better at half choke. Dies when throttle applied. Then doesn't want to start again and eventually I've killed the brand new Batter Tender lithium battery. Bump start and run at half choke to get back home. A bit of towing in there somewhere. At home the battery reads 10.3 on the meter and spray a crazy volume of mud off the bike. Bump start again and bike seems to run fine, no choke and idles great. Rides around no problem. While bike is running the battery climbs from 10.3 to 13.3 on the meter. Take a 30 mile road ride with no issues. Pull in and test the battery. 13.85 on the meter and 14.25 when it is revving up. Great. Problems solved. Turned it off and went in.

    40 minutes later the bike wont start. 10.1 on the meter. Won't even turn it over. I have it on the charger now but my hopes are not too high.

    Great day prior to mud and bike problems.

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    And I have my first complaint about the Shinko 244. Going slow in the nasty mud and that tire didn't shed any mud at all. Quickly built up to be a problem between the tire and fender and it was cutting it away on both forks constantly as it rolled along. Looked like an old Play-doh press. I have really never ridden in conditions like that so I can't tell you if any other tire would have done better but that sucked and there was really no traction left for steering well.
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    Better check your connections and charging rate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by centralwarider View Post
    And I have my first complaint about the Shinko 244. Going slow in the nasty mud and that tire didn't shed any mud at all. .......
    Yeah, in that gumbo mud the only tire that would shed it would be something like the Kenda 760....way too aggressive a tire for most of us. When I got into that kind of mud I had BOTH the Kenda 270 and the OEM rear lock up. I had to stop twice and find a stick to dig it out. I'll never go back there when it's real wet.

    Sorry, no ideas on the BT Lithium issue.
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    Your battery never had a chance to recharge even though it read 13.85 on the meter that is the charge rate from the voltage regulator. Driving it a 1/2 hour will put very little charge back into it. The headlight uses @1/3 of the charge rate. You probably put 1-2 amp hrs back in. The only way to tell the true charge is to let the battery rest for a 1/2 hr and then measure it disconnected after charging. I hope it comes back for you on the charger. Is it still under warrenty? If it's not don't give up hope sometimes lithium cells can be raised up from a state where they won't take a charge to one where they will. I saved one of my lithium power tool batteries by opening the case and hitting the low cell with a charge from a 9v battery. Works like new. There are youtube videos on reviving dead lithium tool batteries. It is not a dangerous procedure like any battery you need to exercise care and not short it in any way.
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    Hey I wonder if your carb vent tube got plugged by mud and that's why it was running bad. Did you modify it for deep water crossings?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tweaker View Post
    Hey I wonder if your carb vent tube got plugged by mud and that's why it was running bad. Did you modify it for deep water crossings?
    I was just going to type that. Great suggestion!
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    Good suggestion, proper venting of carb and tank on these bikes is surprisingly critical.
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    Ok I'm back. Thanks for all the input everyone. Gonna check the connections for sure. Please tell me more about checking my charge rate. I have a pretty good multimeter, just don't know how to use it for the most part. Battery sat on the BT junior charger for last 24 hours. I can barely stand the suspense. Because the bike ran so poorly in the mud and ran so well washed off, I too suspected breathing problems. I do have the deep water mod in place, but those lower tubes were caked and the underside of the seat was solid. Also, a large clump of mud on the cylinder head across the spark plug. Could that cause a problem? I will go do some work and report back here.

    Thanks again for any feedback.
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    MT21 sheds mud pretty well for a front. I am sure the d606 would be similar. 244 isnt super agressive, I would assume 241 is better in the mud too.
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