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03-10-2010, 11:57 AM jwwann Joined on 06-01-2007 missouri Posts 18 Oil change help Do I need to change oil filter evey oil change? Can I run sythetic in 07 tw200? thanks IF YOU AIN'T GONNA' FART, WHY EAT THE BEANS?    Report

03-10-2010, 12:03 PM Dubbin Joined on 10-28-2009 Posts 21 Re: Oil change help at least clean it with WD-40, blow dry with compressed air, and make sure no tears / holes in the screen. should be set    Report

03-10-2010, 12:07 PM jwwann Joined on 06-01-2007 missouri Posts 18 Re: Oil change help Are the o-rings usually ok or should I go by new ones. IF YOU AIN'T GONNA' FART, WHY EAT THE BEANS?    Report

03-10-2010, 5:50 PM SpudRider Joined on 07-18-2008 Idaho Posts 244 Re: Oil change help  jwwann wrote: Are the o-rings usually ok or should I go by new ones. You should inspect the O-rings for damage.  If the O-rings are not allowing oil to escape, they are undoubtedly fine. Spud Vox populi, vox dei.    Report

03-11-2010, 10:36 AM Nikita Joined on 08-21-2009 Running Springs, CA USA Posts 18 Re: Oil change help Synthetic is fine, as long as it is JASO MA rated. Rotella T Syn, fine, Mobil 1, probably not. Its not the base oil chemistry, but the additive package that matters when it comes to wet clutches and transmission gears.    Report

03-11-2010, 2:05 PM srs713 Joined on 09-14-2008 Wichita, KS Posts 440 Re: Oil change help  Nikita wrote: Synthetic is fine, as long as it is JASO MA rated. Rotella T Syn, fine, Mobil 1, probably not. Its not the base oil chemistry, but the additive package that matters when it comes to wet clutches and transmission gears.   Yeah... strange, but with a wet clutch sharing oil with the engine, you actually DON'T want your oil TOO slippery. Stephen S. '07 TW200: 15/50 sprockets, O-ring chain, D2Moto foot pegs tweaked carb (127.5 jet, 0.019 needle shim, idle screw @2.25), Rubbermaid "Action Packer" on homemade brackets    Report

03-11-2010, 2:52 PM SpudRider Joined on 07-18-2008 Idaho Posts 244 Re: Oil change help I use Shell, Rotella T, 5W/40 Synthetic motor oil in my motorcycle.  My clutch works great, and the transmission shifts very smoothly. Spud Vox populi, vox dei.    Report

03-11-2010, 3:48 PM Hendragster Joined on 12-18-2009 Largo, Florida Posts 114 Re: Oil change help I've been using Shell Rotella T SAE15W-40 for couple months and it really works good even in Florida winter time (40's-50's this year). It's absolutely a hardworking oil Ride... 1985 Honda Astrea800 - Dad's bike I rode when I was 8 1994 Honda Astrea-Grand100 (stolen in 1999) 1976 CB125 - built into a dirtbike (sold) 2006 Yamaha Scorpio-Z225 (in Indo) 2005 TW200 (in Florida)    Report

03-11-2010, 5:23 PM TW-87 Joined on 02-01-2010 Manitoba, Canada Posts 305 Re: Oil change help  SpudRider wrote: I use Shell, Rotella T, 5W/40 Synthetic motor oil in my motorcycle.  My clutch works great, and the transmission shifts very smoothly. Spud 5W/40 or 15W/40 ? TW-87 1987 TW200, 15/44 sprockets, DID O-ring chain, Award winning, "Quick Release" Action Packer :-))    Report

03-11-2010, 5:44 PM SpudRider Joined on 07-18-2008 Idaho Posts 244 Re: Oil change help  TW-87 wrote:  SpudRider wrote: I use Shell, Rotella T, 5W/40 Synthetic motor oil in my motorcycle.  My clutch works great, and the transmission shifts very smoothly. Spud 5W/40 or 15W/40 ? I have used both, but I prefer the Rotella T, 5W/40 Synthetic motor oil. Spud  Vox populi, vox dei.    Report

03-11-2010, 6:00 PM Hendragster Joined on 12-18-2009 Largo, Florida Posts 114 Re: Oil change help This is what I got: Shell ROTELLA T SAE 15W-40 Ride... 1985 Honda Astrea800 - Dad's bike I rode when I was 8 1994 Honda Astrea-Grand100 (stolen in 1999) 1976 CB125 - built into a dirtbike (sold) 2006 Yamaha Scorpio-Z225 (in Indo) 2005 TW200 (in Florida)    Report

03-11-2010, 6:45 PM TW-87 Joined on 02-01-2010 Manitoba, Canada Posts 305 Re: Oil change help  SpudRider wrote:  TW-87 wrote:  SpudRider wrote: I use Shell, Rotella T, 5W/40 Synthetic motor oil in my motorcycle.  My clutch works great, and the transmission shifts very smoothly. Spud 5W/40 or 15W/40 ? I have used both, but I prefer the Rotella T, 5W/40 Synthetic motor oil. Spud  Spudrider. I once met a bearing scientist from a really big car manufacturers labs. They were selling my company some hi tech bearings. As a back-yard mechanic, I had to ask him "What is the best kind of engine oil to use?" He said single grade oil. Why ? Because the multi-grade oils all end up as single grade oils after about 1000 miles. So, he said, why pay more for multigrade, unless you're prepared to change your oil every 1000 miles.? He did explain how it all worked in very technical language. It made sense to me. A 5W/40 gradually becomes 5W oil. So the moral of the story is, if you use 5W/40 don't leave it in there too long. Otherwise use a heavier weight. Also, the lower number is the important one, not the higher number. For what it's worth. I'm not lecturing here. I only know what I was told. If there are any lubrication engineers on this forum, perhaps they could expand on this. We won't turn you in to the "Big Oil Police":-)) TW-87 1987 TW200, 15/44 sprockets, DID O-ring chain, Award winning, "Quick Release" Action Packer :-))    Report

03-11-2010, 9:18 PM SpudRider Joined on 07-18-2008 Idaho Posts 244 Re: Oil change help  TW-87 wrote:  SpudRider wrote:  TW-87 wrote:  SpudRider wrote: I use Shell, Rotella T, 5W/40 Synthetic motor oil in my motorcycle.  My clutch works great, and the transmission shifts very smoothly. Spud 5W/40 or 15W/40 ? I have used both, but I prefer the Rotella T, 5W/40 Synthetic motor oil. Spud  Spudrider. I once met a bearing scientist from a really big car manufacturers labs. They were selling my company some hi tech bearings. As a back-yard mechanic, I had to ask him "What is the best kind of engine oil to use?" He said single grade oil. Why ? Because the multi-grade oils all end up as single grade oils after about 1000 miles. So, he said, why pay more for multigrade, unless you're prepared to change your oil every 1000 miles.? He did explain how it all worked in very technical language. It made sense to me. A 5W/40 gradually becomes 5W oil. So the moral of the story is, if you use 5W/40 don't leave it in there too long. Otherwise use a heavier weight. Also, the lower number is the important one, not the higher number. For what it's worth. I'm not lecturing here. I only know what I was told. If there are any lubrication engineers on this forum, perhaps they could expand on this. We won't turn you in to the "Big Oil Police":-)) Thank you for that information, TW-87; it is very interesting.   I do change my oil every thousand miles.  I like the Rotella T, 5W/40 Synthetic oil, because it makes my gearbox shift so smoothly.   I am definitely not a petroleum engineer.   I decided to try the Rotella T, 5W/40 Synthetic oil after I read the essays in the following links.  I don't know if the information contained in these essays is correct, but I have had very good results with the Rotella T, 5W/40 Synthetic oil. http://motorcycleinfo.calsci.com/Consumables.aspx#Oil http://motorcycleinfo.calsci.com/Oils1.aspx Spud Vox populi, vox dei.    Report

03-12-2010, 9:03 PM TW-87 Joined on 02-01-2010 Manitoba, Canada Posts 305 Re: Oil change help Spudrider Excellent links. The second article was fascinating and completely consistent with everything the bearing scientist from the "large lab" told me. Did you notice, in that article the following: "Every time a VII molecule gets broken, the oil loses some of its high temperature viscosity." This is what the scientist told me many moons ago. Now that I think of it, there were not very many (if any) synthetic oils on the market ( at that time), so he was only addressing the refined oils available back then. Thank you. Now I need to go shopping for some oil... TW-87 1987 TW200, 15/44 sprockets, DID O-ring chain, Award winning, "Quick Release" Action Packer :-))    Report

03-12-2010, 10:15 PM SpudRider Joined on 07-18-2008 Idaho Posts 244 Re: Oil change help  TW-87 wrote: Spudrider Excellent links. The second article was fascinating and completely consistent with everything the bearing scientist from the "large lab" told me. Did you notice, in that article the following: "Every time a VII molecule gets broken, the oil loses some of its high temperature viscosity." This is what the scientist told me many moons ago. Now that I think of it, there were not very many (if any) synthetic oils on the market ( at that time), so he was only addressing the refined oils available back then. Thank you. Now I need to go shopping for some oil... You're welcome.   I had not read those essays for a while, so I had forgotten a lot of the information contained in them.  However, I remembered that everything in the essays made good sense to me, so I followed the author's recommendations!   As the author suggested, I have had a very good experience using Shell, Rotella T, 5W/40 Synthetic motor oil in my motorcycle. Spud Vox populi, vox dei.    Report

03-16-2010, 2:46 PM Nikita Joined on 08-21-2009 Running Springs, CA USA Posts 18 Re: Oil change help  TW-87 wrote: Spudrider. I once met a bearing scientist from a really big car manufacturers labs. They were selling my company some hi tech bearings. As a back-yard mechanic, I had to ask him "What is the best kind of engine oil to use?" He said single grade oil. Why ? Because the multi-grade oils all end up as single grade oils after about 1000 miles. So, he said, why pay more for multigrade, unless you're prepared to change your oil every 1000 miles.? He did explain how it all worked in very technical language. It made sense to me. A 5W/40 gradually becomes 5W oil. So the moral of the story is, if you use 5W/40 don't leave it in there too long. Otherwise use a heavier weight. Also, the lower number is the important one, not the higher number. For what it's worth. I'm not lecturing here. I only know what I was told. If there are any lubrication engineers on this forum, perhaps they could expand on this. We won't turn you in to the "Big Oil Police":-)) How many years ago? 20 years ago, dino 10W-40 caused "black death" in some engines. 5W-30 wasnt much better. Ancient history, although there are reports that Royal Purple does shear down prematurely, maybe due to obsolete additive formulas? Both base oil and additive chemistry has advanced drastically even in the last decade. Shell's XHVI Group III+ base oil used in 5W-40 Rotella is relatively new. Afton and Lubrizol have come up with shear-stable VII's that allow 75W-140 gear oils to go 100,000 miles. "Self healing" starfish-shaped VII's are under development.   SAE J-300 defines those numbers, and the lower number is defined in a completely different way than the upper number. Monogrades are no longer cheaper and will soon be discontinued by most of the majors.    Report

03-16-2010, 3:17 PM QWERTY Joined on 11-22-2006 Posts 2,360 Re: Oil change help Mobil 1 Racing 4T is specifically formulated for motorcycles with wet clutchs and a single sump. Do not confuse with Mobil 1 V-Twin, which is not for motorcycles with wet clutches and a single sump. Racing 4T has plenty of additives such as ZDDP.    Report

03-16-2010, 4:31 PM TW-87 Joined on 02-01-2010 Manitoba, Canada Posts 305 Re: Oil change help Nikita and Qwerty. Thank you. That clarifies the subject a lot. It was a long time ago that I met the "guy from the big lab". BTW Qwerty. Armed with the above information, I went shopping for oil yesterday and came home with a quart of Mobil 1 4T (aka MX4T) 10W-40 for my next oil change. Your input confirms my decision. What a great forum ! TW-87 1987 TW200, 15/44 sprockets, DID O-ring chain, Award winning, "Quick Release" Action Packer :-))    Report

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